A few of them. Three, four if you count Sarano. I don't want this to come off as me talking poorly of Loki, he has made mistakes but we all have. I truly believe he is hoping to forge a better path. But he has some things holding him back.
Because I forced him to stop before it became more serious. For my part, I should not have lost my temper and caused that storm, I overreacted.
[ Thor knows he has a temper problem. They both do. His just gets more explosive. ]
We both started our paths by trying to gain the love and respect of our father. Our mother only wanted happiness for us, and I think she had the right of it, it is what I want for Loki. Odin was never going to give him what he needed.
He doesn't want me to be his keeper or take responsibility for his actions. But it's difficult not to. So much of our lives revolve around each other and has all this time. We were raised as twins, to mask Loki being adopted.
What else is there to wish for someone you love than happiness?
All manner of things. Success can be measured in endless fashion. I suppose it isn't so much I disagree that happiness is the best hope for those we love; it's only a wonder if it doesn't feel like quite a difficult thing for some to accept and keep. Does that make sense?
We've been through a lot. Especially the past few years. It's difficult for both of us to break our habits.
I suppose. Contentment ... that might be a good one. Not the high of happiness, but a calmer feeling, a settled one? I don't know what Loki wants for himself. He used to want the throne but no more.
What helps is the knowledge that if we don't break our habits, we'll keep hurting each other and never be able to heal this divide. And I won't accept that as our future.
Perhaps. It's difficult for me to believe he has never known happiness enough to remember how to find it now. We used to have fun as children, although that may be why he kept stabbing me and turning me into things.
[It's all something to chew on. He'll come back to this, work through the new flavours, feel the weight of the patterns properly to set about disrupting them.
Time, then, to ease back.]
Has he not had sufficient opportunity to stab you lately?
He's had plenty of it. I don't think he will again. The last time he betrayed me wasn't long ago, but his heart wasn't really in it. He came through not long after for me, for our people. It changed us.
It does remove some of the baggage that comes with our normal lives, but clearly it hasn't stopped him from some ongoing issues with me. We are very different. The ways we think are different. I want him to find friendship and love and have a full life. He struggles with allowing me to have the same.
If you asked me an earlier time I likely would have lied. I cover up a lot for Loki, make excuses, try to protect him, I always have. And it's not that I don't want to still love and protect him, but I think it's become clear it isn't healthy for us. He can't break out of my shadow if I'm always casting it, and I can't have a full life if mine is only about him.
Trying is all I can ever do. I will never give up on him. But I think you may be a better balm to the soul at times than I am. Less historical baggage.
Yes. I know I said it myself, that he needs to find some of this for himself, but it is still difficult not to want to wade in there and do it all for him. Regardless of the fact I know I cannot. It's an impulse.
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Date: 2021-07-12 02:38 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2021-07-12 03:05 am (UTC)[No one had ended up murdered in a ditch, as far as Lawford could tell. Shy of that, does it even count?]
It's odd, you know. It's actually quite hard to imagine he'd ever shy from a path you'd set him on.
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Date: 2021-07-12 03:40 am (UTC)[ Thor knows he has a temper problem. They both do. His just gets more explosive. ]
We both started our paths by trying to gain the love and respect of our father. Our mother only wanted happiness for us, and I think she had the right of it, it is what I want for Loki. Odin was never going to give him what he needed.
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Date: 2021-07-13 12:49 am (UTC)Do you not think it's a difficult thing to put on our loved ones? That we wish them happiness?
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Date: 2021-07-13 02:07 am (UTC)What else is there to wish for someone you love than happiness?
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Date: 2021-07-13 11:42 am (UTC)All manner of things. Success can be measured in endless fashion. I suppose it isn't so much I disagree that happiness is the best hope for those we love; it's only a wonder if it doesn't feel like quite a difficult thing for some to accept and keep. Does that make sense?
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Date: 2021-07-14 02:30 am (UTC)I suppose. Contentment ... that might be a good one. Not the high of happiness, but a calmer feeling, a settled one? I don't know what Loki wants for himself. He used to want the throne but no more.
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Date: 2021-07-15 02:20 am (UTC)Perhaps he'll give contentment a try, then.
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Date: 2021-07-21 01:22 am (UTC)Perhaps. It's difficult for me to believe he has never known happiness enough to remember how to find it now. We used to have fun as children, although that may be why he kept stabbing me and turning me into things.
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Date: 2021-07-22 01:25 am (UTC)Time, then, to ease back.]
Has he not had sufficient opportunity to stab you lately?
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Date: 2021-08-01 02:27 pm (UTC)Thank you, by the way.
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Date: 2021-08-04 02:07 am (UTC)For what?
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Date: 2021-08-06 01:42 am (UTC)Thank you for trying as well.
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